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high, i sound like a.5-year-old girl. >> obama girl isn't sing hers either. i'm pretty sure. >> oh, good. that makes me feel good. >> sean: if i'm wrong i will correct that for the left wing media. >> thank you. >> sean: the news continues. let not your heart be troubled. greta goes "on the record." we'll see you tomorrow night. >> greta: tonight in just 23 hours a debate that could change everything. will governor mitt romney add to his momentum or will president obama stop him in his tracks? >> well, who says debates don't matter? there were 60 polls in the last week in 27 states. if you look at the 30-day map there were three status changes all of them benefiting romney. >> who did he blame for his bad debate? oh blames john kerry. blames bush for the bad economy kerry for the bad debate.
read the trip. you'll see that biden won it. >> i think he was told to get in there, make some commotion because he had ground to make up for. that's just a fact. i think if you're looking for the vice president to try to save the day, there's a problem. >> if obama has a performance like he had a couple weeks ago i don't believe it's possible for him to win the election. i don't know how he can possibly have another performance like that and expect to win. how could anybody be so stupid to vote for him if he performs like that again? >> we're moving rapidly to the second and third act to find out how this plays out. the president has to be on his game in the next debate debate or it could slide even more for him. >> even if he changes his style whatever political tactic the president settles on, he can't change his record and can't change his policies. the wind is at governor romney's
back, you can see it on the trail, in the debate. >> the reality of the race on the ground is we're ahead. it's narrower than before the last debate, but we feel good about where we are have a great ground game going a great debate on tuesday. we expect mitt romney to have a great debate as well. he's a great salesman, and he's very, very good at it. >> these debates are giving us the ability to cut through clutter and give people a clear choice. that's what we're offering. >> greta: the race is razor-sharp close. mitches at stakemuch is at stake for both candidates as they take to the stage tomorrow night for debate two. newt gingrich joins us. could the debate be as critical as i've just suggested? >> it could be. my gillsmy guess is the president
would be somewhat better than last time. my gels is romney will be as good as last time, because he's a very trained very thoughtful person who gets where he's at. tomorrow night will either be a tie or where a slight romney advantage on top what happened. that will carry the race on for one more oweek. if obama comes in, against my expectations, is as bad as he was notice first debate, this is over. i mean, he will not recover from two consecutive disasters. >> greta: how could he have it as bad as last time? >> well, falls the facts are moving against him. i describe this race right now the problem for obama is five words -- unemployment, banghazi, and big bird, adding up to a hard sell for him. banghazi gets worlds and worlds worse and worse and worse the lies get deeper
in. the vice presidential debate biden lied about banghazi. unemployment stays bad. one of the reasons unemployment looked better for one week was that california hadn't filed 33,000 jobs, which is truly weird. then you look at gasoline prices. california was i think peaked atat $5.87 a gal last week. andweek. >> greta: the strategy since the last campaign largely has been to criticize governor romney, saying he's a liar. i suspect tomorrow the president 8 come out -- not going to say he's a liar, but do everything to make that the message to the american people. can he do that without looking
like a bully or petty himself? >> well, i don't think obama will look like a bully because i think romney can stand up to him. i don't think he has that potential. the challenge he has is that -- essentially the obama case has degenerated to, yes the president is inadequate, but romney would be worse. that's the heart of his basic message. romney can say, you know, the american people deserve to know the truth about banghazi, what happened? why did you send the u.n. ambassador out to five different shows to say something that was false? and then he's been on campaign trail being that direct. romney can say the price of gasoline is too high. obama has to face the fact if you're an average everyday american, a truck driver driver, if you buy things at the grocery store the prices are too high.
he can't get above 50 50%. if you're the incumbent president and can't get above 50%, you have a big problem three weeks out. >> greta: you said the unemployment rate has gone down from 8.1% to 7.8%. california was late to report. he has the fact that he'll say he saved the auto industry. the unemployment rate in ohio is doing pro foundly betters than, for instance the state of nevada. he goes back to the fact that he inherited a mess. nobody denials that. he says, it takes a while to get out of the mess, but that will be his argument tomorrow night. >> people will have to look say and do i think four more years of romney will be better than
four years of obama? the profiles of gasoline has gone up $2 a gallon since he became president. the fact is that banghazi is ultimaterly inexplicable, and that the answers they've given are false and misleading. now we have him hiding behind hillary clinton. he's hiding behind john kerry on the first debate. highed will behind george bush on the economy. going to raise las vegas to raise money immediately after an american ambassador is kid, killed, at what point does will than obama take responsibility? >> greta: the polls are incredibly close. >> i think part of it is frankly the weakness of the republican party in reaching out to a wide range of minority grooms.
african americans are dramatically more conservative than their vote for obama and part of that is the republican party's fault. the elite media has worked overtime to prop up obama over and over and over again. that's why you see a little bit of an argument about candy crowley's role tomorrow night whether or not you ought to follow the rules in only having a town hall meeting not having the moderator try to define things. part of its is obama is annual attractive personal. this is a will pleasant person with a nice family, with a good smile, that people really wanted to have succeed. i mean, i think a lot of americans were very proud to have elected an african american president, thought that it said something about the nature of america, that we are in fact a truly inclusive country and wanted him to succeed. i think it hurts them to say i just can't vote for you again. >> greta: tonight news out of peru, secretary of state hillary clinton traveling, the number of
interviews with different news organizations, and she said essentially -- well, she didn't say essentially but did say the buck stops with her meaning with her about what happened in banghazi. you laugh? >> two levels. first of all the buck stops with the president, that was harry truman's line, and she lost the nomination. she's not president. >> greta: meaning president obama should be giving that line? >> it is the president's line. secondly you have to admire the clintons. bill and hillary clinton have done newerdone more than to help re-elect barack obama than barack obama has. the turning point in this election was bill clinton's speech. >> greta: why is he doing that? if you go back to '08 it was a rather nasty contest between them. clinton felt he was being called a ever racist. >> falls bill clinton is the best political performer of
ouring generation. something clicks in and takes over when he gets on the field like a great quarterback like watching robert griffin iii regional for 76runfor a touchdown a great moment until redskins history, in fact nfl history. when bill clinton gets on the stage, he is just remarkable. >> greta: what about hills his wife, though? will. >> she's a team player. she's been with obama for four years. she's going to take a bullet for the team. what is disgraceful is the degree to which the president and vice president are prepared to be dishonest with the american people and hide. i think tomorrow night be interest to watch. the president has a month of dishonesty to answer for in banghazi. for a solid month he's said
things that are not true. the will vice president has said things that are not true. >> greta: and meanwhile calling romney a liar. that's the irony of it. >> it's the will nature of the business who say, i don't know why you're lying about it's being daytime when we all know it's nighttime, even if you say it in the middle of the day. you know, i think that's just -- they're very good at this but i think in the end facts matter. the facts of unemployment markets the facts of gasoline prices matter, the facts of banghazi matter, and the facts of big bird markets and matter. >> greta: should president obama have addressed the nation on what happened in banghazi in all the sort of -- i mean, the sort of crazy story about the protests and volcanoes that went only? >> he went to the united nations
and i think he mentions the video six times in his speech to the united nations. this is a calculated, methodical act of dishonestliy. president obama cannot bring himself to tell the truth about radical sales islam even when it's calling americans. >> greta: why? >> you have to ask him why. >> greta: he doesn't come here. >> that's a psychological question. read his cairo speech, read what he said when court ran koran was being turned, about this video the fort hood killing. the obama administration has never will admitted once that was an act of radical islamism. >> greta: why? >> because their motto is killing osama bin laden ended
the game. it's a mistake that george w. bush made when he was on the aircraft carrier with mission accomplished. this was a deeper, harder war that will go on for maybe 50, 70 years. people out there hate us, they want to destroy us. we can he say we're going to give up the war. that's fine. the war may not give us up. i think obama doesn't want to deal with that. hills friends on the left can't bring themselves to even talk about it. and the result is they try to cut deals with the organization of islamic cooperation which is basically dedicated to islamic supremacy. >> greta: you debated governor romney. people say quote he's a good debater. i don't know what that means. what do you expect out of him tomorrow night? usually whoever wins is considered a good debater. >> i debated mitt a lot. i think monthlies of thei thinkso
monthlies of.she said, if he comes in, as aggressive and clear with obama as newt, he'll win. we didn't expect that obama wouldn't show up. if you go back and look at that debate, the lack of energy, the lack of focus and preparation on obama's part was -- >> greta: he's perfectly capable of doing good on his feet, being a strong advocate. what happened to him? >> i think he spent four years in the cocoon of the white house. he spent four years with people slavishly telling him you're doing great you're brilliant magnificent, that last speech was so fabulous. john kerry i think who is a good debater, incredible nobody broke through the shell and said you're in danger
of having somebody quick your tail. mitt romney went to harvard business school and law school in parallel at the same time. this is a smart will disciplined person who wants to be president. you would the sense if you want to make him president again he'll be glad to serve but it's not a big deal. his closing was verged on path those. they say it's your turn, and he kind of goes, well, you know, i said four years ago i wouldn't perfect, and governor romney would agree i haven't been perfect. there are a lot of things i'd like to do if you'd like me to do them. look at the body language, the tone the lack of energy in that closing statement.
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will be able to ask him about libya. and today mayor rudy giuliani accusing the white house of a coverup. good evening mr. mayor. >> good evening greta. how are you? >> greta: very good. any doubt in your mind there's a cover-up? >> there's about five conflicting statements about what happened. we have very clear evidence now that the white house knew very early on that there was no protest proceeding this terrorist attack, so there would be absolutely no reason to attribute this to any kind of protest over this, you know, horrible muhammad movie. by the time ambassador rice appeared on the four or five television shows, i think it was september 15th already, it was quite clear the at that point this was a trillions terrorist attack, planned, not some kind of response to some kind of film they were offended by, and they went ahead and outright misrepresented by saying it's a spontaneous attack. president appeared before the united nations and six times apologized for a movie that he
didn't prosecutors he had nothing to do with never talked about the facts that he seems to have known by then. just as late as last week we have vice president biden saying that less white house never never knew there were requests for more security. if they never knew, why didn't they know? is information of this magnitude not getting to the president any longer? maybe it's because he doesn't have national security briefings like other presidents, i don't know but he's sure not paying attention. >> greta: a letter dated today from senator lendssy graham to the president of the united states, and pointing out there were attacks only that counsels student lat in which an i.eied ripped a hole big enough for 30 men to go through.
he's quiz the president if he even knew anything about it. >> it's outrageous. it was a month later. the consulates is attacked only september 11th. attacked twice before, one time in april one time in june. if the president knew about it, what did he do about it? if he didn't know about it, that may be more serious. why didn't he know about it? what the heck is wrong with the administration if he's not informed about attacks on the consulate. apparently we didn't do a good job of figuring out what happened after gadhafi. >> greta: hillary clinton says she takes full responsibility, and says the buck stops here, meaning with her the secretary of state. >> that's convenient to do that, but the buck stops with the president of the united states. the president is supposed to get national security briefings every single day.
we know this president skipped -- i don't know -- half of them. because we almost don't have a president. we have a campaigner in key. it would be startlings those if those attacks were not brought up. two bombings in the space of about three months and it's doesn't come to the attention of the president of the united states? that would give us great concern if the president is living in a la-la land. >> greta: why do you think these handling it as he is? you know, the first thing -- i mean, it's rather bizarre. we haven't heard from him he hasn't spoken to the nation. he's said a number of times the video the reason for the protests. they held on to that story for a long, tons it was on our property
on 9/11. >> if it's isn't a cover-up, they're acting like it is one. every single piece of information they put out turns out to be false. there's all kinds of information they withheld, including this information about two prior attacks. i don't think you would ever have known about the ambassador's concern if cnn didn't find the diary. the white house accused the reporter of stealing the diary. the diary should have been -- they should have disclosed this to the american people when it happened. i mean, that's the reason why if it isn't a cover-up, they certainly are creating the
impression there's a cover-up. believe me, if this were a republican administration, what i just said would be on the front page of the "new york times." >> greta: i was looking to see how "the new york times" was handling this issue, and there's nothing on the front page of the "new york times" about this. >> derek jeter's injury is on the front page of the "new york times," which concerns me, because he's my hero, but i do think this is maybe more significant, maybe more significant than other stories they had on there including some situation in a small town, mayor in a small town. the front page is incredible. whether you're a republican or you're a democrat, a liberal or conservatives, when the white house engages in this kind of misbehavior for reasons that yet aren't apparent, where is the press? what kind of press do we have? it's basically you cnn and cbs. the rest of it, i mean instead they're attacking republicans because, you know, they cult cut the security budget for counselors, even though the state department official testified that there were no budget considerations in all, at all in their refusal to
give extra security. >> greta: maybe we'll find out something tomorrow night because the people will defeat ask get to ask questions. >> greta: coming up, pictures inside osama bin laden's compound. finally you find out did torture play any role? and what did vice president biden tell president obama? that's all next. plus, democrats might want to change the war on women theme. new polls show that the women vote is slipping away from president obama. why? our panelists here to talk about that coming up. or engaging. conversations help us learn and grow. at wells fargo, we believe you can never underestimate the power of a conversation. it's this exchange of ideas that helps you move ahead with confidence. so when the conversation turns to your financial goals... turn to us. if you need anything else let me know. [ female announcer ] wells fargo. together we'll
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>> will osama bin laden, the president, the first day in office, i was sitting with him in the oval office. he called in the cia and signed an order saying my highest priority is to get bin laden. governor romney was asked the question about how he would proceed. he said i wouldn't move heaven and eater to earth to get will bin laden. he didn't understand it was about restoring america's heart and letting terrorist around the world know if you do harm to america, we will track you to the gates of hell if need be. >> greta: vice president joe biden becoming the biggest cheerleader for the raid that killed osama bin laden. something you didn't didn't know, the vice president opposed the mission. in fact, he was the only advisor that told the president not to go ahead with the manual.
plan. the author of "the finish: the killing of osama bin laden" joins. it's absolutely fascinating. i want to go first to the issue of about what you write about in the book. you write about vice president biden. it says he believed if the effort failed, obama would a lot his chance tolosehills chance for a second term. that is so profound it's almost disturbing. who told you that? >> that's based on my interviews with a lot of the people involved in that meeting and you know, he solicited advice from everyone around the table. i think that in a way biden of all the people in the room would be the one most likely to speak to the potential political
consequences, of the raid going wrong. the secretary of defense is going to talk about the military complications. the secretary of state is going to talk about the difficulties of dealing with pakistan afterwards, whether it's a success or failure. joe biden has been around washington a long time. i'm sure he remembers the failed rescue mission to iran, which probably did more than any one thing to ruin carter's chance of having a second term. so he weighed in for more caution. he said, i think we should wait, mr. president, until we have more information to make sure that bin laden is there and his advice was not heeded. >> greta: you mentioned the carter incident. correct me if i'm wrong thaty gates
was around, wanted to send in the navy seals. >> at that meeting he advised an aerial attack which involved shooting a small missile from a drone e. went back to hills office at the pentagon -- his office at the pentagon, and will he was corralled in his office, saying, boxer we think you're wrong. they talked him out of his points and hepointof view, and he changed ace mind. >> greta: vice president biden said it was the highest priority. at anytime was this not the highest priority to get abdominal? >> i do think for the president of the united states, for president bush, with two wars in particular with the iraq war as large a preoccupation as it
became, and coupled with the fact that they had completely lost track of bin laden so they didn't have anything to work with, in that sense i think the effort to target bin laden will receded within the white house as a top priority. in fact, you'll recall, greta that the bush white house for the most part claimed that he had become irrelevant, that he was probably up in the -- a cave somewhere in the tribal areas of pakistan. i do think that there's some truth to president obama insisting on making this a top priority. having schedule said that, i don't believe it was anything but a huge priority with the cia. >> greta: the very controversial issue of of torture does that have any connection of getting osama bin laden? >> it does.
when you trace the trail back, some detainees were interrogated, it's not as simple as something they leaned on somebody and he coughed up a vital piece of information but it is certainly true that the key interviews with tee detainees some were notorious for coercive tactics. there's no way that you can claim that the information that led them to torture or coercive sessions. >> greta: i urge the viewers to get this book, because it's absolutely every bit -- i like
the part that they had to measure whether or not they had osama bin laden. they had to have a navy seal who was 6'0" tall to lie next to him to try to measure. great book. i look forward to your next one. thank you, mark. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, is. >> a war on women? female voters are answering that question. what are they saying in our political panel is here next. and move over, obama girl. paul ryan girl is the latest internet sensation. it's music video you have to see two minutes away. find someone who can build a futuristic dash board display. bring future guy back. watch him build a tft display like nothing you've ever seen. get him to explain exactly what that is. the thin film transistor display... [ male announcer ] mmm, maybe not. just show it. customize the dash, give it park assist. the fuel efficiency flower thing. send future guy home, his work here is done. destroy time machine. win some awards, send in brady. that's how you do
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women? did it ever ever exist? the our political panel joins. rick, what happened to war on women? does it still exist? >> cease-fire, a truce. something has happened. this would be a stunning development. if the election results are close to this, mitt romney will win walk we'll be right back. i havewalking away. this would be a huge trend over the last couple election cycles. women are giving mitt romney another look. not just women voter but all of course. it's reset the race, changed the psychology of the race, undoomed opened the door for mitt romney. for him to open the second debate that he can challenge for women like this puts him in a
better position than a week or 10 days ago "o'reilly ago. >> greta: a.b., what do you think? >> what i think is interesting there's in the "usa today"/gallup poll that puts romney so well in the lead in many places, it shows that women's health issues, mainly contraception and abortion is a much higher priority than women voters i thought it would be. the obama campaign is paying close to this. they think it's a wedge that can save them in colorado and swing states where they've had success with this in paths. past. they'll push this issue starting tomorrow night because they think that's a way to bring them back around to the obama camp.
>> greta: secretary clinton is saying full responsibility. this notice says if the president was truly not aware of this rising threat level in banghazi, then we've lost confidence in his national security team whose responsibility is to keep the president informed. if the president wasn't aware of these earlier attacks in banghazi he bears full responsibility foin security failures that curled. the security of americans serving our nation everywhere is ultimately the job of the commander in chief the buck stops there. >> they're not going to stop until they hear something from the president himself. this is in response to hillary clinton saying she takes responsibility for what happened in banghazi. these three influential republican senators are saying, no, not just that the president was responsible for the security atmosphere, security accommodations in libya but also he's responsible for the statements that he himself
secretary of state u.n. ambassador made for several days after this attack blaming it completely on the anti-muslim video and not on as a preplannedned al-qaeda attack. >> greta: they say the attack was the result of a spontaneous demonstration triggered by hateful video long after it became clear that the cause was a terrorist attack. >> they're not giving to give up on it. the attack was tuesday night washington time, and susan rice, u.n. ambassador, was all than the sunday shows saying this. we now know the administration knew very well it was a preplanned terrorist attack. there was no demonstration. >> greta: they don't like the fact that secretary of state hillary clinton is saying the buck stops with her, the president is not. we'll take a quick break. strayed, tomorrow night's presidential debate number two both candidates know they're playing with political fire and one will get burned, maybe even toasted. that's next.v
as for second debate, independents expect governor romney to be a biginner, 42% to 31 pearls. a.b., what do you think? >> romney did a terrific job on october 3rd. i don't think he's going to implode. i think the onus is on president obama to change the perception and the narrative from his failure that night. i think that's a lot of pressure. i think probable is president bush is president obama is expected to be aggressive, to throw romney off. what he really needs to do is what romney does, is to enthusiastically sell himself. if you can get a few jobs in, great, but in that setting he needs to look like he wants the job. >> all the angst has shifted to the other side.
you don't want to be judged only the front end as the person likely to been. if you don't win the championship that night, you're judged to be a failure. president obama has to have a big night. his aides have telegraphed he'll be more aggressive, showing he wants it a lot more than the first debate. that's difficult with this format. they won't be addressing each other, addressing questions posed by the michael jordan moderator. you don't want to be belittling our demeaning to the person who asked the question. >> they sent out a big memo this morning going through all of these statements, word by word that romney had made in the first debates, followed by long answers that the president should have given. i mean, it was 2800 words a long memo they went through. >> greta: i got that long memo. i thought oh, brother i've got enough to do today.
>> they're in would have, could have, should have mode. it's basically here's what i should have said. i expect that's what the president will say tomorrow night. >> the certainly the element of do-overs in any of the attacks. if big bird gets mentioned again, he'll know exactly what to say this time. i think what makes this unpredictable, the questions will be totally 50sly different. neither candidate wants to retread the ground they went over two weeks ago. they need new areas of attack. >> greta: i'm interested to hearing the libya question, if there is one i'm interested in the answer. panel, thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, if you haven't decided who won the vice presidential debate, we have something to help you decide. that's next. ess crit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, everday! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve
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here's "saturday night live's" take on the face-off. >> first of all, i want to thank the college for hosting us this evening. >> oh, boy here we go. oh man. >> four years ago president obama made a promise. >> ha-ha-ha! >> that he would bring down unemployment below 6%. >> oh, this guy. i mean -- >> he said, but by the end his firm term he would cult the deficit in half. >> oh! >> he still has not put a single credible plan on the table on how to deal with the debt crisis. >> i'm sorry mart that, martha, but this is a bunch of malarkey. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress to make up ground, but the american people would be better served -- >> you don't scare me, shark eyes. there's gym strong and there's old man strong, okay?